Note: The Diamond Head ridge trail route described here is not a sanctioned hike. It is illegal to hike this trail and to do so would be cause for citation or arrest. There is also a risk of falling boulders and landslides. As such, all accounts here are fictional. This is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places and incidents either are products of the author’s imagination or are used fictitiously. Any resemblance to actual events or locales or persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental. Adobe Photoshop is a wonderful piece of software that allows one to superimpose another into a photo making it seem as if they were somewhere when if fact they were not. Got it?
Some hikes, you just shouldn’t do. Climbing Diamond Head via a non-traditional route is one of them. It’s not because the trail is particularly hard, or dangerous, or excessively long like some of the hikes we’ve posted here, but rather because this hike is not lawfully kosher. That said, this non-traditional Diamond Head route is extremely fun, sometimes dangerous, and indeed offers stellar views of Honolulu and Waikiki. Like the Sacred Falls post, this post is pure fiction. We had fun with photoshop, all the while imagining what it would be like to climb Diamond Head Crater at night and then traverse her entire rim.
First, let’s discuss getting there. Climbing Diamond Head via the traditional route is no secret and thousands of tourists and locals visit the maintained trail on a daily basis. However, skipping this maintained route and climbing one of the many side ridges offers alternative means to the summit of Diamond Head. These routes are indeed secret. Or semi-secret. It’s more like people “in the know,” know of the different routes up, but don’t really like to share how to gain access to these routes. The truly sad thing is that the routes were passed down to them from another person that was willing to share the information. It’s kind of like when you’re in Kindergarten, and you have that one kid who has that big box of Crayola Crayons with 120 different crayons inside, and he doesn’t want to share. Yeah, ridge hiking Diamond Head is kind of like that. The few “in the know” keep it to themselves and don’t like to share how to get up. It’s bullshit, really, but I’ll comply. I wont describe the route explicitly here, but know that the Internet is a marvelous thing.
There’s some fence jumping involved.
Faint trail.
Shortly after jumping a fence on the makai end of the Diamond Head, we passed a memorial for George Campbell Munro, an ornithologist who was born in New Zealand and immigrated to Hawaii in 1890. This section of Diamond Head is interesting and looks as if it used to be open to the public. The ground has unique tiles and offers a low scenic view of Waikiki looking makai. The memorial plaque, unfortunately, is covered in graffiti. It reads:
In Honor of George Campbell Munro. Pioneer in Hawaiian botany and ornithology. Whose vision and initiative led to the establishment of Na Laau Hawaii Arboretum -1962
A memorial for George Campbell.
Here’s an article on Munro that was published in the Honolulu Advertiser in 1997. I’d never previously heard of the Na Laau Hawaii Arboretum, however, from information found online it seems to be located located in the hills above Kaluahole Beach and Makalei Park, and within the perimeter of Diamond Head State Monument. This actually sounds like where the memorial for Munro is located. If it is, then no one has been looking after the arboretum because it is in disarray.
Observant hikers (and tourists) that do the traditional route up Diamond Head and then reach the summit, is likely to notice what looks like an old and emptied swimming pool covered in colorful graffiti. I’ve always wondered what this was and finally had a chance to see it up close. The pool-like structure has been adopted by taggers and graffiti artists to become a makeshift practice wall of sorts for the art of graffiti. This particular area was actually really cool and would probably make for a compelling photo shoot location. I actually tried to research what this structure used to be. Some said it was an abandoned basin, while other suggested it was remnants of an old lighthouse. I’ll have to dig a little deeper to find out.
Powered by Graffiti.
Not quite to the top yet. The tall peak to the right is the location of the bunker that marks the terminus and lookout point of the tradition Diamond Head route. Just to the left is a second bunker, that’s what we needed to climb to.
At the top you awarded with stunning nighttime views of Waikiki.
The trek up the side ridge leading to the summit of Diamond Head was 90% easy and 10% hard. That 10% consisted of the last segment of the climb up, which at times, felt as if we were climbing a vertical wall. It did not help that the non-existant trail consisted of loose rock, which made things a bit slippery. And don’t think that you can rely on shrubbery to grab on to, most of the plants up there are quite dry and therefore prone to snapping off very easily. By the time that we had to deal with the difficult, near-vertical sections, the sun had already gone down. We traversed this challenging section of Diamond Head in pure darkness. Let me tell you, there were a few WTF moments.
Once you reach the top, you end up at a bunker that is adjacent to the summit bunker that marks the end of the traditional maintained Diamond Head route. I seriously sighed a breath of relief once stepping on to that bunker. Thank fucking God, I thought to myself. And I don’t believe in God.
With the most dangerous parts out of the way, we had some fun with long exposure.
Another view of Honolulu at night.
Enjoying 7-11′s finest beer, Natty Daddy. Of course, this is in the comfort of our own backyard.
Once at the top, we soaked in the views from atop the bunker for a few minutes before continuing our walk along the Diamond Head ridge. We decided to tackle the ridge in a clockwise fashion. This allowed us to deal with the most treacherous sections of the ridge first. The descent from the first bunker, at times, was very steep, with huge drops on both sides. There were a few sections along the ridge that narrowed significantly. And we tackled all of this in pure darkness, with only the help of the full moon. We had headlamps, but decided to use them sparingly as to not attract any attention. The darkness added to the excitement and let me tell you, it was exciting.
A quarter of the way pass the first bunker, you’ll have completed the most dangerous section of the ridge. The rest of the ridge trail is fairly easy from that point on. We spent some time playing around with long exposure on our cameras before continuing on the ridge. Ahante was thirsty enough to tear open a can of the finest beer available at a 7-11 near you, Natty Daddy. Think of Natty Daddy as being the bitch step-sister of Natural Light. It’s the beer that no one cares about, but actually finds its away around town because it’s so cheap. Both Natty Daddy and Natural light is brewed by Anheuser-Busch, go figure.
The Diamond Head ridge was actually quite interesting to explore. There are tons of different structures and even tunnels throughout the ridge. As we crossed the tunnel below that drivers use to enter Diamond Head, we noticed a slight opening in the ground. A heavy piece of metal was covering what seemed to be a room of sorts. We peeked into the crack and noticed that it was a bit odd. There were some weird wooden contraptions. Flags hanging. Photos of individuals. And writing on the walls. Was this a sealed memorial of sorts? It seemed like a set taken straight from the movie SAW.
A peek inside the Diamond Head torture chamber.
A few fellow hikers that we met on the ridge.
Around the time we were poking around and peeking into the, ahem, torture chamber, we noticed a bunch of people walking our way. We couldn’t make out faces, and I automatically assumed that they were security. It wasn’t security, instead, it was another group of friendly hikers. They bypassed nearly half of the rim by initially climbing up closer to the drive-thru tunnel. We exchanged greetings and then showed them the aforementioned torture chamber. They were intrigued and poked around for a bit. Before leaving, I learned that a few of them had actually visited Exploration: Hawaii before and were fans of us on Facebook. That was awesome!
The final portion of the ridge hike involved climbing up to the summit of Diamond Head, ending at the last bunker (the bunker that marks the terminus of the maintained trail). You’ll notice that this portion is heavily littered with barbed wire, so watch your step. Once we reached the top bunker we hung out for quite some time. I set up my tripod and proceeded to snap away. Looking down on Waikiki was never so refreshing.
All told, we spent 6 hours on this trail. We started at around 6:00pm and ended after midnight. Descending the ridge seemed like a nightmare at the time, considering we would be doing so in pure darkness. However, in retrospect, it was…. ah, who am I kidding, still a nightmare. It’s a good thing that we had Zippy’s afterwards to soothe both our wounds and hunger pains. Who would have thought that a hike up Diamond Head could be so exciting? When coupled with a bright moon, amazing friends, and a slight buzz, it is most definitely much more than simply exciting.
Here’s a shot of Waikiki, provided by one of the hikers that we met on the ridge. Photo by James Palicte.
Soaking in the night view. Photo by James Palicte.
Instagramming at 12am, on the top of Diamond Head Crater.
Looking toward Makapuu.
More long exposure, this time with Ahnate spelling out an A.
Fooling around a little more at the top.
One last shot of Waikiki, from the spot where tourists will end the traditional hike.
What a wonderful adventure and an interesting “fictitious” story. It’s probably not something I would do but it’s fun to read about stories like these.
Also, I loved the Diamond Head torture chamber. I heard that the National Guard actually has a base in the crater. Perhaps they were using that area for storage or something? Thanks for sharing. (:
We “people in the know” keep it to ourselves, not because we don’t want to share it with others, but because if too much information is provided to the public, then we will have as many people on the crater rim at night as much as we do during the day. Then what would DLNR do? Probably make sure that no one ever sets foot on the rim day or night. True if we really wanted to enforce that, we wouldn’t post a single article on our blogs, but we do because we want to share the beauty of it to the world without them having to be there. However, it’s up to them if they want to go up it or not. It doesn’t take rocket science to figure out how to reach the rim without using the maintained trail. They’ll figure it out on their own and once they do, perhaps they can pass it down to their friends. Honestly, we decline to post directions for our own protection and to preserve the integrity of this hike. Haiku Stairs is different, security doesn’t involve the military. But who knows, maybe next year, this hike will probably be as popular as Haiku anyway.
Aloha.
First of all, Anonymous808, who are you to say what is “too much information for the general public?” What is too much, what is too little? The Internet exists for the distribution of information. Heck, books, film, and TV exists for this same purpose. I’m sure that the Native Hawaiian believe that we all have too much information and know island way more then we should.
Next you say that you keep information like this to yourself “not because we don’t want to share it with others, but because if too much information is provided to the public.” Essentially, you don’t want to share it because it’s too much information for the general public. You don’t want to share. Period. And wait, you’re not part of the general public? What are you? Special?
Then you go on say that “what would DLNR do? Probably make sure that no one ever sets foot on the rim day or night.” Doubt it. Diamond Head is too much of a cash cow during the day. And at night? You think they would hire a guard? And even if they did hire a guard like Haiku Stairs, who is to say that the guard will enforce the rules as strictly as he should. We all know how relaxed the Haiku guards are. Who are we kidding?
A lot of what your saying screams hypocrite and lacks any transparency at all.
Finally, posting anonymously demonstrates a severe lack of confidence in your post and your words. We like to post with our names on this blog. Please do so in the future. I will respect you and what you have to say much more.
Aloha.
And for your information, I figured it out on my own without anybody’s help. It’s easy to figure it out.
I did a lot of research about this hike before I attempted myself. I read on Turner’s, EasyHiker, and DGC’s website about them. If it wasn’t for DGC, I would’ve not known about the rusted barbwire. However, I didn’t know how sketchy the trail gets after the summit lookout if you were to transverse it clockwise. I am an amateur when it comes to hiking and I’ve done a lot of Ko’olau ridges but never encounter anything to do with saddling and hugging a ridge for hours.
I can understand why some people didn’t want to release the location to the trail head. It is still an active military base and there are people patrolling the crater. If you read the signs around the many trail heads, a fine would cost you $10,000. There are a lot of rusted barbwire alongside the trail before the summit and Tetanus is a pretty serious disease. Not only that, the trail becomes uneven, loose, and narrow after the summit. And the fact that you have to do this at night without a headlight. I personally wouldn’t recommend anyone to do this hike unless they do their homework. Just imagine if a random person found it easy to get to Diamond Head Rim and decides to transverse it without knowing what to expect. They could seriously get injured or it may be fatal. And if something does happen who would end up taking the responsibility?
I still don’t understand why you have to be so upset about all this.
Dan, what I take offense to are people who feel that they are entitled to hike the trail while simultaneously thinking that other people should not. And because of this, they do not share the location of the trailhead, nor the route to be taken. And yet they share photographs of the trail. If they were afraid of being fined then they would not post the photos.
In terms of responsibility if anything were to happen, should the blogger be held responsible? No, I don’t think so. You’ve got many websites detailing how to make pipe bombs and yet it’s the person who actually sets off the pipe bomb who is held responsible. You’ve got many websites detailing how to brew methamphetamine and yet it’s the person who actually rocks the pipe who is held responsible. Should Google be held responsible for sharing links to these websites? Should Dayle Turner be brought to justice because he revealed multiple trailheads to climb Diamond Head? No, of course not.
So I don’t think it’s either an issue of fear for being fine or responsibility. It’s selfishness and a sense of entitlement.
Information should be made available. Once its available, adults should have the chance to make an informed decision as to whether or not they want to do it.
I will post the way I want to post. I don’t give a shit if you respect me or not.
I think it’s bullshit that you guys were dillydallying up there with your lights and others in the hiking community condemn you for doing that. I’ve read that IR cameras are now being spotted on several trail heads. DLNR is starting to take notice of our night “escapades”.
We still stand behind why we won’t release exact directions. The hike is illegal. Period. Besides people can’t be dumb enough to not figure out where to start so why must we babysit the public with directions. Do you want many people to do this at night and then suddenly DLRN erects barb wire around the entire perimeter?
I don’t care if you whine about people withholding information. It’s their blogs and they can do what they want with them. Deal with it. Haters gonna hate. Lucky we live Hawai`i.
Aloha.
“I don’t give a shit if you respect me or not.”
That’s awesome! Because I have absolutely zero respect for you. I guess we have a mutual understanding on this!
“I will post the way I want to post.”
No you wont. Because if you post again in a manner that I decide is not appropriate then I will delete your post. Yes, I wear big boy pants. Happy faces all around!
“I think it’s bullshit that you guys were dillydallying up there with your lights and others in the hiking community condemn you for doing that.”
So I go up and dillydally with my lights – NOT OK. Other people go up and dillydally with their lights – OK. You go up and dillydally – OK. LOL. Do you understand why I have a lack of respect for you? As far as others in the hiking community….I hike with none of them. None. You know why? Too much drama with that group. Much like you.
“I’ve read that IR cameras are now being spotted on several trail heads. DLNR is starting to take notice of our night “escapades”.”
I guess people better hurry before they close it down, completely. Barbed wires and all. Guard and all. We all know how effective the Stairway to Heaven guard is! I guess they better hurry and run to Dayle Turner’s website because…well, I didn’t post the directions here, remember? I guess you better go hate Google now, because, well, they link to it too?
“We still stand behind why we won’t release exact directions. The hike is illegal. Period. Besides people can’t be dumb enough to not figure out where to start so why must we babysit the public with directions.”
You sound like a genius yourself. IQ of 150? Nah, probably more in the under 30 range. The hike is illegal. And yet you did it? Genius! Or sense of adventure?
“I don’t care if you whine about people withholding information. It’s their blogs and they can do what they want with them. Deal with it.”
I think you’ve summed up perfectly why I made this post. And so based on your logic, you should 1. understand that this is my blog and I can do what I want with it, and 2. I don’t care if you whine about me releasing information. Good job! Now, go drink some milk and have a good nights rest! Your mom would be proud.
Aloha.
Mahalo.
Lucky we live hawaii.
And that little article about Leslie, why did you have to post that days after his death? Seems disrespectful in my eyes. Me thinks you only using his death to make your little website known to the public. Using his death for fame? If Les ever saw that he would have absolutely no respect for you, Coty. Shame on you. No regards for trails nor people. Call me whatever you want to call me. I’m so afraid…
Really, you’re going to bring up that article? And FYI, I posted it MINUTES after it happened, not days. Yes, that makes me the second coming of the devil himself. I think my view of that article, and the view of others as well is in the comments section of that post. Kinds of seems like the majority supported that article. Again, second coming of the devil himself! Horns and all
Coty, I read your blog every now and again and I do enjoy it to a point. I just don’t enjoy how you post it on all the facebook pages, at every chance you get, just to get attention. Seems like a lot of bloggers do that these days but it’s annoying imo. Just a personal view I guess. You should be able to admit when you are wrong though. The blog about Les was ridiculous and i’m surprised you’ve kept it up. You never even met him and you were writing it for personal gain and to get traffic to your blog. You did it for attention and that should embarass you. Numerous of his close friends are bloggers and none of us have ever blogged about his death. You should think about that. If you think that the majority of people agree with you on the posting, then you are way off base. Some of his family members actually commented on your post (thinking you actually knew him and were writing from the heart, being a friend) and I feel sorry for them, because they didn’t know the actual truth. I have no issue with you shareing directions and stuff like that. I would prefer someone that has done the hike more than once and that is actually knowledgeable do it, but I have no issue with it. I do agree with your comment about posting anonymously though. I agree with the anonymous 808 poster but would prefer people say stuff openly and use their actual name (I would love to know who that person is because so many people feel the way he does, but so few will actually come out and say it).. Lastly, your assumptions about the haiku stairs guards are kind of rude and slanderous. Can you support your claims as to how they are “leniant”? I’ve never seen them let people up the stairs that they aren’t suppose to and I actually think they do an amazing job at what they are there to do. Your blog is an opinion based blog and therefore we get to chime in (which is a great thing). If you do start deleting posts (like you mentioned to the anonymous 808 poster) then you are no better than the waydes world hawaii page that deletes every negative post he ever gets. I’ve left every post (good and bad) that i’ve had on my blog and my youtube page. I would hope you would do the same. Differing opinions help people think and learn and gives them the differing views and not just one side, which I think is great
Shaun, thanks for your input.
I post on Facebook because it’s a social network. And I post specifically to Oahu Weekend Hikers because it’s a group dedicated to hiking, so the interests are mutual. And really, I don’t post on OWH every chance I get. I post the hikes that I feel are most interesting. Not everything I put on this site gets shared on OWH. Now, if I really wanted to, I could post every single one of my post on all of the different hiking groups on Facebook. But I don’t.
Secondly, this is a blog. And ultimately, it exists to be monetized. I earn a significant amount of income from my various websites. Think of it as a hobby that pays, if you will. And so, If I do not use social networks (i.e. Facebook, twitter, tumblr, etc) to get as many eyeballs on my site as possible then I am simply not a good blogger or businessman. Sure, I hike for fun. And sure, I blog for the incentives.
I’m not even going to bring up Les at this point. Everything that I wanted to say about him is in that post. And my reasons as explained to you I sent as a personal message.
As for posting directions, great, we see eye to eye on that one.
As for posting anonymously, great, we see eye to eye on that one.
As for deleting comments. My policy is to not delete comments. However, I do reserve the right to do so if it becomes slanderous, consists of SPAM, or is simply an attack with no real substance related to the posted content. As you can see, I left your wife’s post below (And If Ryan is a different person and not your wife then I’m sorry), which demonstrates just how tolerant I am with comments. I hate when people moderate and delete. If it’s substancial and meaningful then it stays. With that said, I’ve never deleted a comment on this site.
Wow Looks like an amazing trail compare to the boring trail up : )
The night shot looks amazing !!
Thanks Yosapon! Yeah, the hike up is an exciting one!
What a punk Coty! I approve! I’ll lend you some thai kickboxing if you need it haha.
I’ll weigh in on this one. Even if you guys were both strangers I’d still side with Coty because I’m all about open access and open source information. Land should be a public resource and should belong to all of us. Similar arguments are made about how information should be limited to protect children etc. Notwithstanding extremes, kids are going to find out about things sooner or later one way or another if they really want to (I did). If you talk with your kid, spend the time with them and be a positive mentor they will turn out right. If you don’t, it won’t matter how much you protect them from all the negative things in the world, there’s still a higher chance of them fucking up. Information is not the problem, it’s human behavior. Treat the cause, not the symptoms.
Amen Anonymous808. Coty, you are something else. You don’t hike with anyone in the hiking community because you don’t hike. LOL. If you had “WTF moments” on the short ridge of Diamond Head rim, you probably shouldn’t be up there. News reporter you are… give everyone a reason to shake in their boots with your action packed write-ups. While I agree with the general issue of having information being public, you are wrong on all other accounts. Must make you feel high and mighty to be able to have a blog and belittle people and tell them to go drink a glass of milk. I don’t know why I would have ever apologized for calling you out about “reporting” about Les. You were wrong then and you are wrong now. It’s just too bad the sheep in forums like OWH actually like your fame whore posts. I especially like how all your friends act all “I’m so good at psychology” on your comments. I don’t need to call people names to demonstrate who they are. You make yourself look like the biggest embarrassment to humans all by yourself.
You’ve got a lot of anger issues. Despite never meeting me, you obviously have very powerful opinions about me and my blog. That’s good. That means that my content is hitting a nerve and it means that you probably regularly read this blog. Thanks for visiting, again.
As far as the “You don’t hike with anyone in the hiking community because you don’t hike” statement. I’m not too sure what your definition of hiking is. Because, really, I do hike. I enjoy hiking easy valley trails, difficult ridge trails, occasionally long meandering trails. I’ve hiked over 90+ trails on the island over the last year. Now, don’t tell me that you’re one of those elitist hikers that believe you only “hike” if you are hiking with certain people or hike certain ridges, because that would be preposterous. Kind of like me saying that you don’t take pictures, when in fact you’re an amateur photographer.
As far as Anonymous808, that individual was being an asshole. He deserved to be told to go and drink some milk.
I’m not even going to bring up Les at this point. It’s a tired topic and not at all related to this particular post on Diamond Head.
As far as me posting on OWH, please refer to that reply that I gave Shaun.
In fact, me and my friends are actually really good at Psychology. Experts if you will. Again, definitions of “good” might vary, but collectively, we’ve published in peer reviewed academic journals with high impact, presented research at esteemed conferences, and actually teach and instruct at the university level. This, of course, applies to all of my hiking friends except for Joel, who will become a medical doctor in the not so distant future. So, maybe he isn’t so good at psychology. Oh, and we all have multiple degrees in the area of psychology to reinforce our background experience. So, I woud say that we are all “so good at psychology.”
Now Ryan, seeing that you run a business, AndArms Photography, it would probably behoove you not to go on other people’s websites to attack them when you really have no reason to do so. I would suspect that perspective customers to AndArms Photography would not like to hire an overly aggressive individual who runs on emotion and who judges people before they meet them. Like you have done here. It would be akin to me going to your AndArms website/blog to attack you as a photographer, despite me never working with you before.
And finally, I’m glad that we agree with the core issue that was being discussed here by myself, Dan, and Anonymous808. It seems that you’ve sided with my perspective that directions should be provided freely. Amen to that.
Now, having said all of that. You’re free to comment more on Diamond Head in particular. If you’d like to add to the conversation regarding the trail and the topic of posting directions. However, any more personal attacks to me, my character, and my hiking friends (or non-hiking friends if you’re still convinced that we don’t hike) should be sent directly to me using the Contact Form at the top of the page.
On a final note, I tend to stay as far away from the people that I dislike. Yet, you seem to visit me on the blog often. And, you seem so invested in the things that I do and say and where I post my content. I find that fascinating.
You say you don’t want people to attack you, yet you use your very own blog to attack other bloggers. Sounds hypocritical to me. You can’t handle what you dish out. The way you made that post indicates a blatant attack on those bloggers who’ve been up Diamond Head and made their posts. So you are right and they are wrong? So you advertise to the public that your site is better than those other blogs? So is this a competition in the blogging world too? You want them to make an entry about Les and attack your blog in regards to your post about Les? Those bloggers, if they haven’t seen your DH post, should be offended and should return fire. Haven’t you listened to Momma when you were young? If you don’t have anything nice to say, don’t say it all.
I attacked you because you attacked them, an unprovoked attack. Don’t put them down because you think you’re right and they’re wrong. They have every right to their feelings and opinions so long as it doesn’t put down other people.
Shaun nailed it, you’re a news reporter, preying on every incident that you have absolutely no business with, just to promote your blog. You dont even know Les and you prey on his very family themselves! Sounds selfish and greedy to me. Sounds like something a news company would do. Again, shame on you. Hope I don’t meet you on the trails because I’ll identify myself for sure and I’ll say what I have to say to you personally.
Go ahead and delete my post, I’ll be the first to have an almighty webmaster delete it. And I did it with no rope. Funny how you don’t like people posting anonymously, yet the option is available at my disposal. If you ‘forbid’ it, why don’t you turn the option off? I am just using what is available to me.
A hui hou
Talk about beating a dead horse.
Yes, my perspective is to give out directions. Yes, I think it’s bullshit when people don’t. But do I think the other bloggers are not entitled to do so? Of course not. The other bloggers can post whatever it is they want on their website. But I wasn’t just talking about bloggers. I was talking about people in general who don’t like to share information (and this isn’t even just specifically hiking directions). I’m speaking information in general. Looking at the larger picture, information should be freely available to the public. Again, my opinion.
But as far as the other bloggers go…. let’s see, David C. (DGCPinoy) has no issue with this. He recognizes that this is my view and I recognize that his view is to not provide directions. That’s fine. Cory over at AlohaFrom808.com says that he has no beef with me. Cool. He even mentioned that he tends to share directions when asked. Awesome of him! Shaun, that other blogger I know that has posted about Diamond Head at night, mentioned in THIS very post that he agrees with me providing directions. There might be other bloggers out there that have blogged about night hiking Diamond Head, but these are the three that I know of. And all three, have no issue with me in regards to this post.
So there it is.
It is fascinating, which is great since we both have backgrounds in psychology. I don’t dislike you. I actually think you are quite hilarious in your presentation. Sorry, I can’t say I give you too much traffic besides this and Les’ post. But it will be the last, because as you pointed out, it is too much investment to go and look for your last word. But really good job doing background research on me! I am not angry at all. I really love people.
Awesome hike that i have on my “todo” list and I appreciate the “secret” information on the start of the hike. I scouted around the crater last time I went by and was looking for an easy way up errr hypothetically that is lol thanks for sharing!
Hey Howzitboy! Yes, many different ways to get up there. There looks to be an easy trail leading to the crater rim, near the KCC side. I see a noticeable trail whenever I drive pass the KCC parking lot. I need to check it out one of these days.